Today, we are talking with Dr. Irini Fambro about our authority in Christ, and how it translates in our lives. Dr. Irini is an author, speaker, consultant, business owner, and podcaster.
In this episode, we are diving deeper into our God given authority, speaking truth over our lives, our identity in Christ, taking thoughts captive, and more.
We live in a broken world where the enemy runs rampant. In his attack against the Kingdom of God, he will use any ground we allow him to take. We must be aware of our authority in Christ and be ready to put up our shields of faith in times of spiritual attack.
Tune in for encouragement and truth spoken by the wonderful Dr. Irini Fambro.
Episode Highlights:
Links Mentioned in Episode/Find More on Purpose Beyond Motherhood and Twelve 12 Ministries:
Today, we are talking with Dr. Irini Fambro about our authority in Christ, and how it translates in our lives. Dr. Irini is an author, speaker, consultant, business owner, and podcaster.
In this episode, we are diving deeper into our God given authority, speaking truth over our lives, our identity in Christ, taking thoughts captive, and more.
We live in a broken world where the enemy runs rampant. In his attack against the Kingdom of God, he will use any ground we allow him to take. We must be aware of our authority in Christ and be ready to put up our shields of faith in times of spiritual attack.
Tune in for encouragement and truth spoken by the wonderful Dr. Irini Fambro.
Episode Highlights:
Links Mentioned in Episode/Find More on Purpose Beyond Motherhood and Twelve 12 Ministries:
00:00.52
twelve12ministries
Ah, hey everyone welcome to another episode of the purpose beyond motherhood podcast. My name is Nicole Holly is here with us and just we're glad that you're here. This is your first time tuning in we are grateful for you and if you've been listening with us hey we're grateful for you too. Ah, just wanted to give you a quick update we just wrapped up refined refined was a beautiful evening holly killed it Holly was just so wonderful and sharing her heart. Um, just in in and through what the lord is doing and so she was wonderful. Our panel.
00:25.18
Holly
Woo.
00:34.11
Holly
And then.
00:35.90
twelve12ministries
We can't wait for you to come to the next refine in October um, but definitely just stay connected with us and all the things Holly I know I'm giving you a round of applause friend. Ah.
00:44.32
Holly
Yes, hey girl we had a great time at refined job I here so I was nervous but I did it and I will continue to just grow. However, the lord leads me um, ok, also today we have.
00:54.64
twelve12ministries
Um, yes, amen.
01:00.35
twelve12ministries
So wonderful.
01:00.78
Holly
Ah, wonderful guest. Her name is Dr Irene fambro um I met her I think I was like 23 when I met her like ten years ago at a gateway women's retreat and she was my leader and I the moment that I met her I was just like I love you and you love Jesus and we need to be friends. Um, she has an amazing podcast called smarter than you think um, which their season 2 just launch so you can find that anywhere you listen to podcasts but she has so many roles that she fills. Um she is the owner of intelligent leadership. She is a consultant she is a professor she is an author she is a speaker she is overqualified in the natural in the supernatural. So we're just really glad you're Dr. Fambro sweet irey um
01:42.78
twelve12ministries
Um, yeah, but.
01:46.20
irini fambro
Ah, thank you.
01:48.57
Holly
Welcome in. She's going to share some love and some truth with us today. So you take it away my sister.
01:49.98
twelve12ministries
Yes.
01:54.70
irini fambro
I appreciate it. Thanks for having me on. Um I Love I Love God Moments Um, Holly you reached out to me and let's just be honest I wasn't really active on Ig So the fact fact that I found your message is another God moment.
02:07.20
Holly
Yes, whoo.
02:09.67
irini fambro
Ah, that sounds like a boomer because I'm not as as as ah old as that sounds but like for real like to find it to trust it and to kind of follow the path of it is you know it's just one of those cool places and um I love Um, just you know I Love people.
02:12.38
twelve12ministries
Um.
02:27.58
irini fambro
That are owning their territories that God's given them and that's just huge like I think that there's a lot of like you can feel everybody going like man. This world is messed up as if you know like it was just everything like the enemy's that good like that he's you know, getting away with that much and I think more of it.
02:28.15
Holly
Um, yes.
02:28.69
twelve12ministries
Oh.
02:43.63
Holly
Um, yes.
02:43.65
twelve12ministries
And um.
02:47.26
irini fambro
Is people abdating their thrones of Authority and territory that they like it's this is your like you've given up your territory like guys if I don't do anything to my lawn and I'm yelling at the weeds like you came in you have dare you and I didn't do anything.
02:50.33
Holly
Um, that's good.
02:50.90
twelve12ministries
Um, wolf and that.
03:00.42
Holly
Um, right.
03:05.68
irini fambro
And I just give into the weeds. You know it's like I could turn the camera and like check it out. No so you know but and and we yell at the weeds and we say give the weeds power in our territory and God's like it's yours I gave you dominion and and he did just.
03:07.95
twelve12ministries
Um, yeah, um.
03:08.54
Holly
Um, lose it.
03:12.55
Holly
Yes.
03:21.72
irini fambro
You dominion without an empowerment. He gave you authority. So I get it where we can see the enemy is trying really really hard. But what I what I really pray that we see is that we have territory there. There is something in front of you.
03:22.80
Holly
Yes.
03:23.37
twelve12ministries
Now.
03:29.72
Holly
Her her.
03:35.89
twelve12ministries
Um, yes, yeah.
03:37.79
Holly
Um, Amen That's good.
03:41.43
irini fambro
There's something it and and sometimes we are We care too much about the future territory that we want and we do not take care of the one that we have whatever is maybe it's just you you know like it's starting with you and then it's starting with if if you you know.
03:48.55
Holly
Um, yes.
03:49.55
twelve12ministries
Full.
03:58.29
irini fambro
When you get married. Maybe it's in that the territory you have as as a couple you know I mean all those different places those expand but God's word is also very clear about stewarding what we have doing well with it and then the increase can come and it isn't like oh Ha Ha I'm not giving it to. It's just saying hey.
04:09.94
Holly
Yep.
04:17.30
irini fambro
I Want to make sure you have the tools to handle bigger territory. Um, that's that that whole deeron you know the um, it's I know it's not in Deuteronoy I think it's an exus. It's the little by little about taking the land. It says lest the beast would overtake you and so I think it's.
04:18.00
twelve12ministries
Yes.
04:18.90
Holly
Yes, that's so good.
04:27.76
twelve12ministries
Me now.
04:29.11
Holly
Um, and.
04:33.52
Holly
It's good.
04:36.16
irini fambro
But recognizing in our land that we you know in our territories one that there are beasts there. You know I think it's kind of shocking but there's a mountain lion in here you he was like so let's move little by little let's be strategic.
04:42.86
Holly
Um, yeah.
04:43.92
twelve12ministries
Um, ah.
04:46.23
twelve12ministries
Really good. But.
04:47.76
Holly
Yes.
04:54.54
irini fambro
Let's take what we have you know and and and move forward in those things that everything's going off. This is so crazy in my life. Um, but the dog y'all the dogs Barkin there's a siren going then this like this feels like motherhood. Um, like yeah and it feel like your tears.
05:02.75
Holly
It's.
05:07.57
twelve12ministries
Um.
05:07.67
Holly
Um I.
05:12.92
twelve12ministries
Yeah.
05:13.91
irini fambro
Story right? like I don't know like in my mind I would be stepping in my territory. My destiny and there would be like a soundtrack playing like in a movie or something you know like the moment like here I am even in hard moments like rocky music would come on or some eye the tiger like let's oh let's.
05:16.12
Holly
Um, it's true.
05:24.92
twelve12ministries
I'm all about that.
05:29.10
Holly
Um, yes, totally.
05:30.30
twelve12ministries
Didn't know. Yes.
05:33.20
irini fambro
Go you know or something and it's not. It's not you know like it is the the dog barking and the doorbell ringing and the phone and you know and it is that place that destiny can be uncomfortable. Territory can be uncomfortable.
05:36.52
Holly
Yes.
05:46.92
Holly
Yeah.
05:48.29
twelve12ministries
Um.
05:50.19
irini fambro
And I don't think I knew of those marks in destiny I thought it was I really thought destiny would be a little bit more comfortable than this like I don't know why comparing it to like mashed potatoes I guess because it's a comfort food but you know I just have be yummy like mom in my destiny but that one's like.
05:58.40
Holly
Um, was not.
06:08.20
Holly
That's so true that much Oh my goodness. No way you do not.
06:09.86
irini fambro
Such an inappropriate relationship with food I was like I know I'm working out I'm working it out I think I would love to do a study on men and women in food like do women just have a different emotional relationship with food than men or right like.
06:22.27
Holly
Yeah, probably because of our hormones. It's not fair.
06:28.30
irini fambro
Ah, just just curious just curious. That's that's another podcast but you know anyway, so that's what mean that's what makes my heart smile in being able to be on this with you guys is that is seeing you guys um, taking your territory and go on hey this is what God's asked us to do and we're going after it.
06:29.31
twelve12ministries
Before but.
06:31.49
Holly
Okay.
06:46.28
Holly
Thank you? Okay so I could have you talk about an array of things and you would make it would be drop the mic moments all over the place but we were going to have you talk about identity today and just helping these women that are walking through loss or an infertility diagnosis or motherhood itself.
06:46.67
twelve12ministries
Thank you.
06:46.86
irini fambro
And I love that.
07:06.60
Holly
Just what truths would you want to speak into a woman that is struggling with her identity as a mom as a a want to be mom going through infertility or a mother navigating that.
07:13.90
twelve12ministries
Um, yeah.
07:16.25
irini fambro
Um, yeah, yeah, um, man um me when you said it I was just kind of putting my heart there with that woman and if you're listening today. It's not by accident and I think that.
07:29.41
Holly
The.
07:29.76
twelve12ministries
Are.
07:35.56
irini fambro
These are overwhelming places. There are moments that you are sitting there and consumed with where you are asking questions will this always be where I'm at I always have these feelings um am I The only one that has it and.
07:48.80
Holly
Ah.
07:55.80
irini fambro
Um, you know and I think that without um, man not intentionally but like little by little our challenges become our identity they become who we are it almost becomes the tag of our name the tagline you know.
08:04.41
twelve12ministries
And.
08:06.45
Holly
Um, the.
08:14.39
irini fambro
Um, because if you talk to people um pretty quickly. You can figure out some things that are going on in their life. You know mean it's like somebody it comes from the overflow right out of the mouth. It's the overflow of our heart. So what we've been sitting on what we've been ruminating in what has our heart.
08:21.15
Holly
Um, yes.
08:24.36
twelve12ministries
Um, yeah, well.
08:31.56
irini fambro
Will come in the overflow of our words and our conversations and and and it also comes in the overflow in the way that we see things we see things through our challenge right? It becomes our filter. Um, you'll begin to notice those that have kids those women that are pregnant.
08:31.89
Holly
Are.
08:33.11
twelve12ministries
Yeah.
08:41.22
Holly
Um, yeah.
08:41.71
twelve12ministries
Are.
08:49.24
irini fambro
Those that are I mean it just is like it almost reminds you of like when you broke up with your first boyfriend. Whatever car they drove or that song that was your song I mean the radio never played it and then it played it 10 times right? and then you know there was not 1 car in the town.
08:53.66
Holly
Are.
09:03.36
Holly
Um, yeah.
09:06.47
irini fambro
But all of a sudden every car was bred and every car was a truck and I mean it was just you know and that's what what happens is that it begins to filter everything that we see including ourselves and now my identity is my challenge.
09:09.10
twelve12ministries
Um.
09:11.64
Holly
Um.
09:17.76
twelve12ministries
Let's screw that up.
09:22.41
Holly
Are.
09:26.00
irini fambro
And I don't want you to see I'm not man that challenge is super real for all of us. But god's saying I need you to take your identity behind a lot garden like Sonda Hollomon says I need it to be a place where your challenges can't touch it but some other things like good things can't touch it. Um.
09:36.62
Holly
Let's win.
09:41.30
Holly
Are.
09:41.58
twelve12ministries
Who.
09:44.72
irini fambro
Which the lord did not you know I still have a case out with him where he's gonna work out why I can't find this out earlier in my life. But um I was doing a workshop. Okay I don't remember but it was I know I was in my forty s I clearly know I was in my forty s so so it was probably only it within the past.
09:52.91
Holly
The year is this.
09:58.34
twelve12ministries
But.
10:04.68
irini fambro
Couple of years and so um and I was doing them on spiritual gifts and I was like oh let's go let's go in you know we're gonna talk about all the different places. It is you know and and we love it because you know it's kind of like the indian Graham test or the strings finders or they you like tell me who I am you know like I love this, let me do another one.
10:18.20
Holly
Um, and.
10:18.81
twelve12ministries
Um, yeah.
10:23.65
irini fambro
And the lord was like okay before you get into the details of it I want you to be real clear that your spiritual gifts are not your identity and I look I was like this I was like excuse me, you know, like.
10:30.99
twelve12ministries
Um, ah.
10:36.51
Holly
Um, yeah, um.
10:37.47
twelve12ministries
Yeah.
10:41.96
irini fambro
I Literally um I think I'm mentioned this home one Pi I literally took the the I don't even like to walk my dog because he's a golden doodle and he just doesn't know how to actctor right? y'all like okay, he just he can't like every dog that goes by is.
10:51.19
Holly
Um, that's what mine is too. Yep, Nope do it.
10:53.86
twelve12ministries
Um.
10:58.43
irini fambro
Is cool and my dog is an idiot like you know and it's not even like a cool bark. It is the most unmanly dog bark that you have ever seen and you know and he makes a scene out of it and so I don't really like to take him on a walk like it's embarrassing. Um.
11:02.26
twelve12ministries
Ah, that.
11:09.63
Holly
Um, my business.
11:11.14
twelve12ministries
Ah, it's amazing.
11:17.54
irini fambro
And so but I had to I literally was like God We gotta talk this out so he was a own an emergency was like come on bro. Let's let's go figure this out and I I said what do you mean like I love my spiritual gifts. You know I love um my destiny I love.
11:21.65
Holly
Ah.
11:30.70
Holly
Are.
11:37.41
irini fambro
Um, you know these are definitely who But what I thought was who I am and um God said Irena your your identity has to be things that are untouched. So if you never fulfill your destiny are are you still mine are you still valuable.
11:48.87
twelve12ministries
Um.
11:49.30
Holly
Um, no.
11:56.27
irini fambro
Is your identity still intact if you can't if you have no opportunity to operate in your spiritual gifts then that's it your Id Identity's on pause until you get an opportunity you know and that guys that was my thirty s that was for real like.
12:08.53
Holly
Are.
12:14.35
irini fambro
Um, I wanted to preach and teach and you know the things that you list that sounds like I mean I can I can feel every single one of those I remember the trudging through a book I remember like man I think it would be great to teach a class someday. Oh I Remember you know that to me is like watching my testimony of what God did and it was rough.
12:16.27
Holly
Um, Lama.
12:33.65
irini fambro
Like it was rough like and I and I put my identity on that ride I let it go up and down with it I mean it was there were good days. You know when I graduated and got my p to me I was like hey Identity was high when I.
12:34.00
twelve12ministries
Um.
12:38.60
Holly
Well.
12:48.98
Holly
Um, nothing.
12:52.98
irini fambro
Didn't get into the doctorate program. The first time I tried I was like what's going on. You know so that's what I'm saying my challenge may not be your challenge but it can become our identity and it and that's why those things have to be core things that are like I am a daughter of the king.
13:05.33
Holly
Um.
13:12.48
irini fambro
I Am loved I am valued I belong you know these core factors that cannot be touched by what I do by what other people say no matter if that's why you know it's a lot garden. It's like nobody else is coming in here.
13:25.89
twelve12ministries
Yeah.
13:31.85
irini fambro
There are moments where people kind of you know, look and kind of see the aroma of your garden goes out. People are like oh it's great and you're like yep, it's my garden. You know I can tell you things about it. But I'm not letting you in my garden and that guys that means not just people that are like.
13:35.78
Holly
Are.
13:36.98
twelve12ministries
Yeah, yeah.
13:44.94
twelve12ministries
I.
13:46.43
Holly
Um, no.
13:51.31
irini fambro
Against us or like that person with the 1 dumb comment. You know there's someone who just just doesn't have a filter you just like you didn't think you just didn't and so but it also means people that are dear to us like who I am isn't determined by my husband isn't determined by my children.
13:57.23
Holly
Are.
13:57.26
twelve12ministries
Um, yeah.
14:04.71
twelve12ministries
That's good. It's a great.
14:05.89
Holly
Um, yeah.
14:08.60
Holly
Um, and.
14:11.90
irini fambro
Ah, parents by my friends. You know it's like and there are. It's really hard because they can affirm what God's already done but that lot Garden is between you and him my identity isn't the roles that I that I get to step in.
14:21.76
twelve12ministries
Oh.
14:21.76
Holly
Are.
14:28.88
irini fambro
Those are just places the lord and I get to partner in but being a mom being a wife um being a professor a speaker you know those things that you you know a consultant those aren't my identity and that is man it's easier said than done.
14:29.47
twelve12ministries
Yeah.
14:42.39
Holly
Um.
14:47.27
irini fambro
Because when I get opportunities like this to be a bill to to run my lane. They're so sweetde. But if at the end of the day I base my identity on when I get these opportunities oh man. Well that means yesterday when I didn't have an opportunity. It's.
14:47.36
Holly
Um, yeah.
15:02.23
Holly
Um, right.
15:06.43
irini fambro
I Mean literally it's like every day I'm plating for the for the enemy to mess with it and to tamper with it and the alert just like that is not how I made you and so I think that that can easily happen and I just want to say it happens for all of us. It's not.
15:09.82
Holly
Um, that's good.
15:11.35
twelve12ministries
Um, yeah.
15:13.90
Holly
Yes.
15:20.60
twelve12ministries
Oh yeah.
15:22.78
Holly
Um.
15:25.60
irini fambro
Um, it's no respecter of you know what your education is how old you are, um, you know whether you are single married have kids don't you know I mean it's it doesn't matter the enemy will come at your core.
15:30.11
twelve12ministries
Yeah.
15:43.20
Holly
Um, yep.
15:45.25
irini fambro
And if you leave that gate cracked he will try to come in. It says catch the little foxes and songs home because those a slipper little suckers. They are fast. You know I don't have Fox experience but in my mind they're like you know and.
15:52.86
Holly
Um.
15:56.47
twelve12ministries
Um.
16:02.69
Holly
Um, totally swift are.
16:05.38
irini fambro
I don't I'm not a Fox expert. But I imagine since people used to hunt them. You know with horses and dogs. You know, um that there there's they they slip in like that and they try to take and they.
16:16.27
Holly
Um, yes.
16:21.53
twelve12ministries
Yeah, um.
16:23.85
irini fambro
And so there is a there is the command to catch them that means they're catchable right? Don't The Lord doesn't ask us to do something that we can't do so if we're supposed to catch it then then he's saying that you can catch it.
16:27.28
Holly
Um, um, it's good. Um, yep.
16:27.85
twelve12ministries
Come on.
16:40.33
irini fambro
Um, so I have to recognize believe that my gate's open I have to um, actually look for the foxes. Be honest about the places that I've let come you know and you'll you'll kind of go you can work backwards to where there's a Fox because if there's no fruit there. He's taking something right? some.
16:47.32
Holly
Um, oh.
16:56.24
Holly
Um, that's good.
16:56.34
twelve12ministries
Um, who oh my goodness. Yeah.
16:59.79
irini fambro
Something has been taken from you and you can see this place is like where is it hard to believe in your value where is it hard. Um, you know to believe in your worth um to even he's robbed your thoughts like he. The the the challenge has is living rent free in your head. You know mean you can't like you can't Sleep. You can't eat. You can't your everything like I said everything you see it has it is taken you captive instead of you taking it captive. You know.
17:16.25
Holly
Um, again.
17:21.80
Holly
Um, yeah.
17:31.27
twelve12ministries
Yeah.
17:34.23
Holly
Um, that's so good.
17:35.40
irini fambro
And and I think that's those are just they're hard places but they're places that say um I'm not you know I think there's so much especially when when you're struggling with infertility that makes you feel like there's nothing. You can do you know it just feels like what can I do.
17:51.20
twelve12ministries
Um, yeah.
17:54.43
Holly
Ah, oh here.
17:55.20
irini fambro
You know? and so I know I can pray through it and you know and and and and it becomes hard because especially those places that you've you continue to pray right? and you continue to to press into the lord about it. Um, and I think that we have to begin to see where the lord is saying like. Um, hey this is something that you can do a thought is something taking captive a thought is something you can do um, being honest with your emotions and letting me heal your emotions in this in John eleven when when Jesus comes to heal lazarus.
18:20.23
twelve12ministries
Um, yeah.
18:26.70
Holly
Um, it's good.
18:34.10
irini fambro
You know it's it's it's a whole play out and this is really where we really see the emotional intelligence of our god like it's it's a powerful moment because he first of all, we have um, a message that goes to Jesus that says the one you love is sick I don't.
18:40.67
Holly
Um, and.
18:48.53
twelve12ministries
The past.
18:52.94
irini fambro
I don't think that was Lazarus's nickname that's just I'm saying like I don't I know a good old fashioned light hey I'm just saying Jesus I'm not just some stranger right? and many ah the women listening are feeling like the one you love.
18:53.75
Holly
Are.
19:02.47
twelve12ministries
Yeah.
19:06.40
Holly
Um, often, um.
19:08.33
twelve12ministries
Yes, me.
19:11.62
Holly
Um, oh it's good.
19:12.57
irini fambro
I'm not just anybody I've been crying out to you I've been asking for you to move on this and I'm not doing okay and I need you to show up and the timing isn't what you thought.
19:25.99
Holly
Um, yep, it's good.
19:28.53
irini fambro
He didn't show up when you thought he would and your and if you were honest about it. You're disappointed in God you're angry at him. Um.
19:33.33
twelve12ministries
No.
19:45.73
irini fambro
You might feel betrayed by him I mean there's some strong feelings in it and you want Lazarus back. You want the answer to what your you know what brought your pain right.
20:00.52
twelve12ministries
Now.
20:02.71
Holly
Um, yeah.
20:03.91
irini fambro
But this is what's interesting when when Jesus comes you know Martha comes out and she's one of those like kind of put your big girl panties on and deal with it. Kind of a woman right? I mean she was like if you I mean she I don't even think he makes it to the house because she says Mark Mary's back at the house right? She meets him on the road.
20:13.80
twelve12ministries
At.
20:13.90
Holly
Um, justice.
20:21.80
irini fambro
I mean I this I have such a relationship with her like she was like if you had been here like let's be honest, you and I both know I seen you do some things and if you had been here when I asked you to be here I wouldn't be dealing with everybody crying I wouldn't I'm not gonna tell you all my stuff right now. But I'm telling you you know and then and then he says.
20:27.99
Holly
Um.
20:34.71
Holly
Are.
20:36.23
twelve12ministries
Yes.
20:39.78
irini fambro
Jesus says something and you know it means talks about like oh you know you know life can come for you and then it's like yeah Jesus I know in the resurrection life pray the lordre praise Jesus I know the right things to say you know I got my Jesus talk I know what it is okay, fine. Um, and then she goes back and.
20:53.42
Holly
Um, with that.
20:57.90
irini fambro
You know I don't see anywhere where Jesus says that to for her to go get married but she was you she was definitely the oldest. You know the oldest sibling that's like she like hey Mary Jesus wants you stop like pull that together and go out there so and so she.
21:05.59
Holly
Um, with.
21:11.71
Holly
Are.
21:12.24
twelve12ministries
Yeah.
21:16.10
irini fambro
She is the it's my party and I'll cry if I want to right? like she is all in her feels right? She's got entourage of feelers with her right? A lot of feelers can and that's not wrong I'm just saying this is where we can sit in these places and she goes.
21:19.86
Holly
Um.
21:27.95
Holly
Um, the.
21:33.80
irini fambro
Says you know if you had been here. This wouldn't have happened so here's what's interesting. He sees all he sees the scope the the whole landscape of where you're at and this is where we get and Jesus wept.
21:35.54
twelve12ministries
Um, yeah.
21:47.86
Holly
Um.
21:51.24
irini fambro
Um, why he knows he's gonna go and heal lazarus you know like this could have been like a big like Subris no crime if emotions didn't matter right.
21:56.30
Holly
Um, for.
22:01.24
twelve12ministries
Um, yes, yeah.
22:04.58
Holly
Um, yeah.
22:06.45
irini fambro
If we were just supposed to suck it up or if we were supposed to either have the one where we hide it or where we sit in it then you know if those if that extreme didn't matter then it'd be like Martha get it together. Mary get it together. Let's go to the grave site. This is the moment we're gonna go and I'm gonna show you something and give you the answer to your prayer and he doesn't he weeps with him. You didn't say and Jesus shed 1 stone tear.
22:23.40
Holly
Are.
22:23.84
twelve12ministries
Now.
22:30.56
Holly
Um, it's Ken um.
22:36.27
twelve12ministries
Um.
22:36.67
irini fambro
Said he wept like he felt their anguish and what I realized what I felt like the lord was showing me in this was God you were healing everything in that story.
22:39.49
Holly
It's good.
22:53.50
irini fambro
You were he healing Martha and Mary's disappointment their anger their they're hurt. They felt betrayed as a friend of his they felt unseen. They felt unvalued that that they weren't important enough that they weren't valued enough diminished. Rejected and he said oh god I don't want to just answer your prayer because what you'll do is you'll have the answer to your prayer but you'll still have all the bitterness and resentment.
23:22.24
Holly
Um, one.
23:23.10
twelve12ministries
Now.
23:26.20
irini fambro
And Anger and all of that stuff will still be there and I promise you it'll come back out and so God says I'm I'm I am coming for your lazarus I'm coming for it. But I care more.
23:31.84
Holly
Um.
23:39.58
Holly
It's good.
23:45.37
irini fambro
About you? Okay, well maybe I I care about all of you. Maybe maybe that's it. You know what? I mean like it's like it's not that I don't care about Lazarus because he does and he goes after that for them. But I think that we make again the the challenge becomes.
23:50.69
twelve12ministries
Yeah.
23:50.71
Holly
Are.
23:59.82
Holly
Mate.
24:05.29
irini fambro
Become so myopic to it. It's all we see and we miss all the other places ah around us that have we haven't dealt with that God wants to come in and he cares about the fullness of you and that means your spirit.
24:08.93
Holly
Um, or.
24:20.10
Holly
Um.
24:22.50
irini fambro
Yeah, that means all the good stuff of spending time with him. It means in your soul your mind your will your emotions wants to heal those places and it means your body there are places that you're struggling with physically and I know that maybe your attention is on what's physically not working to conceive. But.
24:26.39
Holly
Are.
24:28.88
twelve12ministries
Um, yeah.
24:41.79
irini fambro
Maybe you have constant headaches. Maybe you have dry eyes. Maybe you have your hands are constantly dry I don't know what it is but your body's trying to say other things and you're saying and no, no, no, that's not as important as the physical that I want to pay attention to.
24:44.50
Holly
Um.
24:50.25
Holly
Are the.
25:01.45
twelve12ministries
Um, you know.
25:01.55
irini fambro
And he's saying yeah, but why do you keep having headaches. You know I mean because you'll carry those things over when Lazarus is is is healed imagine that he didn't deal with Mary and Martha's disappointment and hurt.
25:03.59
Holly
Who.
25:18.35
Holly
Um, yeah.
25:19.37
irini fambro
Every time people would tell the story of him being raised. Can you imagine that feeling. You'd be like yeah he could have done it three days earlier no like you know you'll got a little something you're gonna add to as you didn't you know what? I mean it's like.
25:26.28
twelve12ministries
Right? Yes, yeah, and.
25:32.16
Holly
Um, was it.
25:35.20
irini fambro
So I tells a story and all they see is that all that goodness that's in there. You're like um, you didn't see ah you know Paul Harvey's the rest of the story like that was you know you'll carry it with you. Um, and and I pray as you know for those places.
25:45.45
Holly
Um, awesome.
25:55.20
irini fambro
You would see them as each each aspect of you is valuable because he does he thought it was valuable to give a spirit soul and body so he believes It's valuable to bring healing to all of it complete and so I love those places that his word wants to show up in that because.
25:59.49
Holly
That's okay.
26:00.64
twelve12ministries
Yeah.
26:07.11
Holly
Um, amen.
26:14.81
irini fambro
We all have a lazars something that seems something that we love dearly that isn't doing as well as we want it to and Jesus isn't showing up as soon as we'd like him to.
26:16.59
Holly
Um.
26:25.52
Holly
Um.
26:28.61
twelve12ministries
Now.
26:30.62
Holly
It's good.
26:32.18
irini fambro
We All do and I just I want us to pay attention to what that that narrative looks like because there's something I don't know there's There's a lot of people. There are other people that he. Rose from the dead and he didn't have that much Relationship. You know the mom who's weeping for her son the procession that goes um and I think sometimes we see those moments too right? Like we see people have these immediate moments that woman never had even prayed for her son to come back from the like she didn't even.
26:54.95
twelve12ministries
Um, and.
26:56.87
Holly
Um, and.
27:10.46
irini fambro
You know what? I mean so you even you see um the other extreme people that get pregnant and and didn't even try people that are pregnant didn't even want to be pregnant. You know I mean like and that's those are the stories that can come around you like.
27:16.56
Holly
Um, my.
27:18.39
twelve12ministries
Um, yeah.
27:21.39
Holly
Um.
27:27.24
irini fambro
Like you have got to be kidding me and you know mean that's where you feel like the one you love is sick like the one you love has an issue and you need you need to come and and you know here's some of the difference though like um.
27:32.31
Holly
Um, yeah.
27:33.78
twelve12ministries
Yeah, yeah.
27:43.69
irini fambro
Man they had relationship with him that carried that could sustain their lazarus that could that cared about healing and it's not that he didn't for the woman with the somebody didn't have relationship with her yet. Um, there are benefits to that. But.
27:46.27
Holly
Um, yeah.
27:56.90
twelve12ministries
Well.
28:01.22
Holly
Um, yep.
28:01.89
irini fambro
It can be hard because the the timing of it and and it's so easy to compare the woman who didn't even ask for it who gets her son raised and you who feel like you've been waiting and waiting and waiting and um.
28:12.66
twelve12ministries
Um, my moment. Yeah.
28:20.91
irini fambro
Those places try your your faith your relationship and you know to be honest and I remember waiting for certain things to occur and I began to realize that um I was having an affair with.
28:21.92
Holly
Are.
28:38.69
irini fambro
My destiny like I was so in love and you know like I wanted so much some and of the things to happen and so many things to move and to move in my giftings and to moving my callings and my purpose and and I mean like it became like everything that I was thinking of.
28:40.23
Holly
Um.
28:56.16
irini fambro
So when things happened or didn't happen. You know it was like either affirming of that or it wasn't and but it became I had more of a relationship with my destiny than I did with the lord and the Lord's like I am jealously affectionate for you like.
29:06.50
twelve12ministries
Yeah.
29:14.70
irini fambro
Jealously and I had to come to realization I've done the same thing with problems challenges where I have become so so engrossed in them that that's who I have more of a relationship with than I do with him and so that is who's counseling me that is who's you know.
29:29.58
Holly
Um.
29:33.87
irini fambro
Giving me advice that is who's um, telling me who I am and who I'm not most of the time my challenges just tell me who I'm not all right right? Um, so these places are they're real. Um.
29:41.53
Holly
My health was the.
29:45.22
twelve12ministries
So good. Yeah.
29:51.40
irini fambro
But I love that he wants to go after every part of you he wants you lazarus more than you do and that's hard believe that's really hard to believe I don't think people realize how vulnerable hope is.
30:00.67
twelve12ministries
Yeah.
30:01.25
Holly
Um, love that.
30:07.95
Holly
Um, that head is so good.
30:08.80
twelve12ministries
So my gosh. Ah yeah.
30:09.74
irini fambro
Hope is vulnerable like to put that out there to to you know to? and that's the that's one of the concrete places of faith of being sure of what I hope for.
30:21.93
Holly
Um.
30:22.88
twelve12ministries
Movement.
30:25.24
irini fambro
Even though I've hoped for something so long I'm not sure about it anymore you know and he's saying yeah like it has to like it is vote it is a vulnerable place to dream again to hope again to believe. But.
30:35.52
Holly
I am.
30:39.11
twelve12ministries
Um, for the live.
30:39.97
irini fambro
You know there's some other stuff that has happened along the way and in the process and in the time of waiting for your lazarus. We've a mesh our identity in it. We have ignored our emotions and our body. Um and and to be honest, our spirits probably have fatigued. Our faith is diminished.
30:43.89
Holly
To.
30:54.51
Holly
Here.
30:58.68
irini fambro
Um, we might have surrounded ourselves with other people that have gone through the same thing. But if they don't want to bring if you don't have shields of faith around you then the fiery darts of the enemy comes in. So if those friendships aren't like Shields of faith then you know then the darts are coming in.
31:05.85
twelve12ministries
Yeah.
31:07.64
Holly
Um, yeah, it's good.
31:17.89
irini fambro
They're hitting you and you feel unprotected and your faith may not be great enough. You know to be that shield you know that that tall shield like in battle that can cover you and that's why God gives you people around you that have faith that can surround you um.
31:21.82
Holly
Yep.
31:26.31
Holly
1 letter.
31:27.47
twelve12ministries
Um, yeah, yes, yeah.
31:33.77
Holly
Um, so bad.
31:35.00
irini fambro
And that's what you're you're you're seeking is to not do it alone but to do it with the right people not everybody can handle your challenge like you know when you say it and then you're like.
31:41.55
Holly
Um, Amen Yep! nope.
31:42.25
twelve12ministries
Yes.
31:54.18
irini fambro
I wish I did not and you're just trying to find a way like to divert it and youre like and so you minimize it you're like but it's okay when foreign prison Jesus like never mind you know because you know when someone can handle because because it's a.
31:57.73
twelve12ministries
That's right? ah.
31:57.74
Holly
So so people.
32:12.42
Holly
Totally.
32:12.78
irini fambro
It's a deep pain and a lot of people just want to like slap averse to you because your depth of pain is deeper than the God they know.
32:12.87
twelve12ministries
You know.
32:20.43
twelve12ministries
Come on? Yeah oh yes.
32:27.77
irini fambro
It it just and you just go I don't know why I just share that you and you know what? they'll just slap it to you. Don't worry God will work all things together for the good those love him called according to his purpose for I know the plans I have for you says the Lord you know and you're like.
32:28.25
Holly
Um, drop the mic.
32:42.91
twelve12ministries
Yeah.
32:43.00
Holly
But I do but I need something else right now.
32:47.73
irini fambro
Um I do but I need I need I need I need a weeping God with me right now you know you know if you know somebody that has struggled with it or you know what? I mean it's like sometimes it's just being able to sit there with him and say I'm.
32:52.30
Holly
Um, yep.
32:57.90
Holly
Are.
33:02.43
twelve12ministries
Yeah.
33:03.25
irini fambro
So sorry he didn't he didn't solve your emotions by telling him what he was about to go do he didn't and he knew it.
33:04.99
Holly
Um, that is yeah, there's so much power and yes.
33:12.11
twelve12ministries
Yes, ah.
33:16.47
irini fambro
Because that wasn't the answer the answer to the pain that you're feeling isn't the answer to your prayers and you think it is and you wait until then and I'm believing for every woman listening that they would receive the answer to their prayer. But I'm letting you know you'll get to it.
33:16.70
twelve12ministries
Um, yeah.
33:18.27
Holly
Um.
33:23.23
twelve12ministries
Wow powerful.
33:23.39
Holly
Um.
33:30.71
Holly
Um, yeah, and.
33:35.83
irini fambro
And you'll still have that emotional place that you've never healed in your emotions in your mind you will just replace that worry in that space in that challenge with another one. You replace the you know the emotional stick and keep swirling.
33:36.90
twelve12ministries
Yeah.
33:38.50
Holly
Um, and.
33:41.95
Holly
Are.
33:46.66
twelve12ministries
With something else. Yeah.
33:46.91
Holly
Are the. Um, yeah.
33:54.26
irini fambro
And then you'll go slap off on your child and you'll be like where did that one come from you know because they did something you know what I mean like something else will take its place and God says I am for your whole healing I am after you.
34:01.20
twelve12ministries
Ah.
34:04.41
Holly
Um, yeah, so.
34:12.56
twelve12ministries
Yeah, that's a whole that's a whole word like I have received all of this like you must have been in my journals reading my mail like all of the things. Thank you for talking to me today. But.
34:12.88
irini fambro
Because you matter like you.
34:13.49
Holly
Love It. Who.
34:26.43
Holly
Um, oh yes.
34:27.66
irini fambro
Um, course.
34:28.12
twelve12ministries
There's just so so many things though that you talked about just identity and just um and how you you talked about how your destiny and your calling is just like that is the thing that you were holding onto.
34:36.77
Holly
Are.
34:40.32
irini fambro
Um, yeah.
34:42.17
twelve12ministries
And not being a daughter of Christ and I can a hundred percent relate to that, especially just in and through this ministry of just like grinding so hard for the past six years you know trying just trying to do all of the things and so like just said about god wants to heal us.
34:48.38
Holly
Are a.
34:58.53
Holly
Um.
35:01.13
twelve12ministries
Our whole self you know and not just these small pieces of who we are and so I just think that that's beautiful I'm like yes lord come on. You're you're healing me. Thank you Jesus it's hard though. It's hard. But thank you? Yeah, it's worth the work. Yeah.
35:03.00
irini fambro
Um, yeah.
35:10.11
irini fambro
And it is it is but it's worth the work. It is worth it. It's worth the work I think we'll do the work for so many others and people around us and friends and but I need each of us myself those listening to feel that.
35:11.99
Holly
Um, amen.
35:29.52
irini fambro
They're worth the work I'll buy them themselves even if even if even if Lazarus didn't come. It was worth it's worth it
35:29.72
twelve12ministries
Yeah, oh.
35:31.13
Holly
Um, that's good. Yeah I do want to say 1 thing which is this ministry the.
35:34.73
twelve12ministries
You know worth the work. Oh.
35:44.42
Holly
The foundation of it The core of it is again I know we've said it before but it's not to get you the baby. It's to help you walk it well and everything she just said is to help you walk that. Well we want we want that longing fulfilled but we want to give you the tools to walk it. Well.
35:50.58
twelve12ministries
Yeah, luck it? well.
35:52.85
irini fambro
Um, and.
35:58.37
irini fambro
Yeah, yeah, Amen I agree.
36:01.22
twelve12ministries
Amen so good I ranie thank you thank you? So and you heard you you really you blessed us today and I know our listeners are just are going to be encouraged and um I don't say this lightly but they have some really amazing tools to.
36:02.91
Holly
Um, think wearing yeah.
36:16.81
Holly
Are yeah.
36:18.10
twelve12ministries
To have in their tool belt to continue to battle in war and and continue to keep their eyes fixed on Jesus. So thank you.
36:25.82
irini fambro
Absolutely thank you so much for having me I'm honored to be on here. Thank you.
36:27.13
Holly
Um, amen Yeah, you're awesome. We love you.
36:31.12
twelve12ministries
Yeah.